He said, “Wait and see. Wait and
see.” I waited two months and had
terrible depression. I was depressed
about the loss of my body, and I was
depressed about the loss of my faith.
When I came out of it, I stopped
looking outside myself for happiness.
I started looking inside and started to
feel joy, joy, joy This was grace.
From that point on, I felt my soul. I
felt the soul and not my soul because
my soul was here in my head, but
I was feeling the perception that
everything was lovable and the whole
universe was giving me love. I learned
unconditional love from my guru just
loving me as I was.
KK: How can we more easily and
consciously connect with, as you
put it, the soul instead of the soul in
RD: The thinking mind and the ego
are part of the soul in our head.
It’s called monkey mind, and it’s
uncomfortable. You can bring your
attention and your identification with
those thoughts down to your heart by
using a mantra, such as: “I am loving
awareness … I am loving awareness
… I am loving awareness.” That brings
you to the heart, which is a doorway
to the soul or the soul land, as I call
it—another plane of consciousness.
You enter into that heart place, and
from there you enter your true soul.
Your true soul is a being of light. The
soul doesn’t comply with time, with
space—it just is. Then a component
of the soul, the witness, can see your
thoughts, your incarnation. It stands
behind the incarnation, and then you
identify with your watching power,
If you witness a thought that isn’t
going to help you on your way to God,
you love it. Maharaji gave me two
instructions: Love everybody, and tell
the truth. All I could say to him was,
“Maharaji, I can’t do that.”
He said again, “Love everybody,
and tell the truth.” Maharaji loved
everybody—everybody! I’ve slowly
grown into my soul. It’s only in the
soul where you love everybody and
tell the truth.
I have a pooja table with all of the
saints—and Donald Trump. I love
all the saints! I love Anandamayi,
Jesus, and Buddha. Well, Donald …
Now, I’m identified with my soul,
and a soul sees other people as souls.
Souls love each other. I look at the
picture of Donald Trump and I see
the soul. I realize I have compassion
for that soul because he’s got a hard
incarnation. Such karma! He’s acting
out motives that are from past lives.
When you’re dying and going
into soul land and the bardo, the
in-between state, you meet your soul
pod, a collection of souls gathered
together in consciousness. Your soul
pod has been traveling with you since
it all began. The soul pod asks what
you learned from your incarnation.
KK: And you better have a good
RD: That’s right! Then there is
another being of light—your guru,
your angel—or whatever it is for you.
You and your guru contemplate the
choices for your next incarnation,
including the choices that would
lessen your karma, and then the two
of you push the button. And all of the
sudden, waaah, waaah, waaah!
KK: And it starts all over.
RD: All over! So … you’re asking me
about old age.
KK: Yes, you said you didn’t want to
take that senior discount because it
would be limiting who you were.
RD: Yes, because by doing that, I
would be identifying with my body.
It’s like when people ask me to have
a birthday celebration. No—I’m
infinite Are you going to celebrate
the birthday of my leg?
KK: Does it get easier to identify with
the soul and come from the heart as
RD: It gets easier and easier because
as you’re aging, you’re looking at
everything from a distance, and
you’re more peaceful and loving.
Now I look forward to senior citizen
discounts. Here, they’re called
kama’aina—that’s the Hawaiian
word for them. When I was young, I
wanted to identify with my motives.
Now I’m content; I’m not achieving.
YOUR TRUE SOUL IS A BEING OF LIGHT.
THE SOUL DOESN’T COMPLY WITH TIME,
WITH SPACE—IT JUST IS.